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Chapter 149: [Forum] Job Consultation Office, Job #10059
A request: the lower-rank buffer job that has appeared in past forum chapters should be corrected from 【Club User】 to 【Staff User】.
The past threads will be fixed later as well.
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【Main】 Job Consultation Office, Job #10059 【Sub】
1:Anonymous Adventurer
This is the job thread.
A thread for sharing recommended jobs and builds.
Please don't trash-talk or badmouth specific jobs.
■Previous Thread
【Main】 Job Consultation Office, Job #10058 【Sub】
Template follows below.
2:Anonymous Adventurer
Q&A
Q. How do you get a job?
A. Main jobs are obtained by defeating the boss that appears on Floor 10 of a dungeon. Sub-jobs are obtained by defeating the Floor 20 boss.
Q. How are your job options decided?
A. The jobs you can choose from depend on your actions inside the dungeon up until you defeat each 10th-floor boss, plus your own personal aptitude.
Q. Can you change your main job?
A. You can change it once, when you defeat the Floor 30 boss.
Q. What's the difference between a main job and a sub-job?
A. Acquiring a main job changes your stat values. Acquiring a sub-job does not change your stats. Sub-jobs only let you learn job skills.
Q. What are high-rank jobs?
A. At Floor 30, high-rank versions of your main job become newly selectable; at Floor 40, high-rank versions of your sub-job. Jobs stronger than the Floor 10 and Floor 20 options in both stats and skills.
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59:Anonymous Adventurer
Became an adventurer last month and finally hit Level 10 yesterday.
Looks like I'll be challenging Floor 10 this weekend—anything I should watch out for?
60:Anonymous Adventurer
>>59
Don't pick 【Katana User】!
That is all!
61:Anonymous Adventurer
>>59
If it's a job-picking question, nobody can answer until you say what kind of adventurer you want to be.
If it's Minotaur strategy you want, here.
URL: (omitted)
62:Anonymous Adventurer
>>59 >>60
It's not just 【Katana User】, lol
Scout jobs, magic jobs, production jobs, general jobs—and ranged jobs too, forget 'em lol
Also, steer clear of the minefield jobs lol
What matters is stats lol
Strength IS power lol
And yeah, no answering you unless you post your current weapon lololol
63:Anonymous Adventurer
>>61 >>62
My apologies.
I'm running a one-handed sword and shield with light armor.
My special skill is apparently a rare one, so please cut me some slack—I'm avoiding anything that would identify me.
For the record, I still don't really understand how to use it.
I'd like a front-line job.
If there are any recommended one-handed-sword-and-shield jobs, please enlighten me.
A party member of mine—or rather, a senior adventurer—is going to clear Floor 10 for us, so this time I'm not scheduled to take part in the fighting.
>>62
I don't know which jobs count as "minefield jobs."
64:Anonymous Adventurer
You say "minefield" and here I come, a 【Trap User】.
THIS is a minefield.
URL: (omitted)
65:Anonymous Adventurer
>>64
A URL posted by a 【Trap User】? Too scary to click, lol
And it's a shortened link on top of that lol
66:Anonymous Adventurer
>>63
By this thread's standards, 【Shielder】 is the recommended first job.
Excellent stats, and both the shield skills and the provocation skills are top-notch.
It's light on attack skills, but skills aren't mandatory until Floor 20, so you can brute-force your way through on stats.
Fight with a shield and a 【Shielder】 will show up on your job selection screen just about guaranteed—anyone can become one, which is nice.
↓ Here's the summary site for what's generally called "combat jobs you must NOT pick on Floor 10."
URL: (omitted)
Except for 【Warrior】, they're all stat-starved.
The bar is basically "stronger than 【Warrior】 and you pass," so I figure if it beats 【Warrior】, any of them is fine.
On the flip side, lots of them make GREAT Floor 20 sub-jobs, so that's the one thing to watch.
67:Anonymous Adventurer
Personally I think the most important thing is NOT picking a job on your first clear (_;
Jot down some notes on the spot or whatever, then talk it over with a senior adventurer—that's the way ('ω')
Rare jobs exist and all, so if you can manage it, come out of the dungeon once and consult here—that's best! (^^)!
【Shielder】 is recommended, but with a one-handed sword you've got 【Knight】 above it, and for bare-handed there's the even better 【Monk】 (_;
If those show up, pick them instead ('ω')
68:Anonymous Adventurer
Super helpful, thank you, everyone.
【Monk】 > 【Knight】 > 【Shielder】—got it, memorized.
I'll also ask my senior adventurer whether I can pop out once and come back.
69:Anonymous Adventurer
>>68
It's not like that ranking is absolute, you know!
If you want a shield job up in the high ranks, 【Shielder】 is a must!
【Knight】 has the most strong high-rank derivations!
【Monk】 will coast along until Floor 30, but its decent high-rank derivations are so rare you've basically got nothing but 【Paladin】, which is hard to get!
Sure, you can also take a high-rank job derived from a sub-job, but think down the road when you pick, alright!
70:Anonymous Adventurer
'Evenin'—
Fresh newbie here. My party members are fighting over what job and weapon I should take.
What should I do?
71:Anonymous Adventurer
>>70
That's drama-thread or vent-thread material.
Take it over there.
Trouble-Shooting Thread
URL: (omitted)
Vent Thread
URL: (omitted)
72:Anonymous Adventurer
Summer break's coming and the newbie kids are multiplying, lol
73:Anonymous Adventurer
Summer break already, huh ('ω')
>>72 should go try the Saitama Dungeon...
High schoolers aren't kids anymore, you know (´ω｀) mufufu
74:Anonymous Adventurer
>>70
Thanks, I'll ask over there.
Also—my party members will carry me all the way to Triple-Rank, so if I'm NOT worried about my first main job's stats, what build should I go for? Keep high-rank derivations in mind, please.
75:Anonymous Adventurer
>>74
Dropping another thread-war topic on us, huh
I'd love to say "take it to the Strongest Build thread," but that thread is way past merely being on fire right now...
By this thread's standards, I'd go 【Shielder】 → 【Spearman】 → 【Wide-Area Shielder】?
Become a 【Shielder】 early, spam the shield skills, and fish out 【Wide-Area Shielder】.
That's the move, no?
76:Anonymous Adventurer
>>74
【Scout】 → 【Trap User】 → 【Ninja】
77:Anonymous Adventurer
>>76
Quit posting landmines in plain sight, lol
>>74
You trust your partymates WAY too much, lol
Triple-Rank isn't something you just breeze into, lol
It takes at least two years, and I doubt a bunch of Triple-Ranks will keep carrying you until then, lol
Just start with 【Shielder】, lololol
78:Anonymous Adventurer
>>74
【Knight】 → 【whatever weapon job you like】 → 【Paladin】
This is the one! (^^)!
79:Anonymous Adventurer
>>74
【Monk】 → 【Staff User】 → 【Berserker】
Strongest build, no?
80:Anonymous Adventurer
>>79
If you're ignoring stats until Floor 30, isn't 【Monk】 a dead job?
【Shielder】 → 【Staff User】 → 【some high-rank shield job】, no?
81:Anonymous Adventurer
Everyone keeps recommending it, but what even IS 【Staff User】?
82:Anonymous Adventurer
>>81
【Staff User】 starts with low stats, but self-buff skills raise them.
It's the "pick a high-stat main job, make 【Staff User】 your sub, and you're golden" job!
Its weapon enhancement is "Staff," so anything club-shaped—a literal club, whatever—can be enhanced, and like a katana it takes no real technique, super easy to use!
It's not just for melee weapon jobs—it's a great sub for magic jobs too!
Pair it with a magic job and a mage-type buffer shows up in your high-rank options!
【Mage】 → 【Staff User】 → 【Charm Caster】
Every party wants at least one high-rank buffer!
83:Anonymous Adventurer
Competent poster here, so I'll add: 【Heavy Armored Warrior】 too.
The 【Heavy Armor】 skill scales its enhancement off your equipment's weight.
If you won't be a 【Shielder】, something defensively strong like 【Heavy Armored Warrior】 sounds right.
【Heavy Armored Warrior】 → 【Staff User】 → 【some high-rank job or other】
On the other hand, 【Light Armored Warrior】 can't manage gear-less after Floor 30, so no.
You could also go scout line into 【Hunter】 or 【Trap User】.
Capable? Sure. Strong? Debatable.
84:Anonymous Adventurer
【Knight】 → 【Heavy Bow User】 → 【Bow Knight】
This is THE bow build, right?
If you've got friends who'll carry you to Floor 30, you've got to think about what comes next, no?
If you're eyeing Floor 40, this is the only choice, no?
If only 【Knight】 had appeared for me back then—
85:Anonymous Adventurer
Sorry to butt in from the side.
The buffer talk caught my ear—let me ask something.
Are there any lower-rank jobs that can buff OTHER people?
86:Anonymous Adventurer
>>85
【Dancer】 and 【Musician】.
Playing music for people, showing them dances—pretty sure that's all there is (_;
【Dancer】 mainly buffs itself while dancing, so if it's a true buffer >>85 is after, I'd say 【Musician】, I reckon ('ω')
Word is 【Musician】 branches off as the high-rank job of 【Bard】 or 【Actor】 (´ω｀)
87:Anonymous Adventurer
>>86
You know anyone who has it?
88:Anonymous Adventurer
>>87
【Musician】 is a general-class job, you see (_;
Haven't seen the guy I knew in ages—pretty sure he's retired by now ('ω')
89:Anonymous Adventurer
>>88
Shame.
But thank you for the valuable intel.
90:Anonymous Adventurer
About that 【Monk】 → 【Staff User】 → 【Berserker】 "strongest build"—
A ton of the guys who gutted it out bare-handed until 【Monk】 showed up on Floor 10 get stuck when 【Berserker】 never comes at Floor 30...
Wish they'd just give up and become a buffer or something.
91:Anonymous Adventurer
>>90
A guy who's been brute-forcing every fight on 【Monk】 stats CANNOT just pivot to a backline job now, you know (*´Д｀)
And these are the ones chasing "strongest," remember?
They won't settle for anything short of 【Berserker】-class—but guys who've only ever muscled through on stats were never getting 【XX Saint】 or 【XX King】 options...
No amount of time fixes no talent—you just have to give up ( ;∀;)
Like me...
92:Anonymous Adventurer
Talkin' talent? The best pick is the "job you had from the start," lemme tell ya.
And jobs that synergize with your special skill, too.
That's what the dungeon itself is sayin', ya know.
93:Anonymous Adventurer
Even 【Berserker】, the job everyone went on and on about as "the strongest," got roughed up by the 【Spear King】 who appeared out of nowhere.
In the end it wasn't about builds—technique carried the day.
A weak person who becomes a 【Berserker】 is still weak.
The moral: stop fussing over builds and polish your sword arm.
The dungeon willed it.
94:Anonymous Adventurer
>>70
You still around?
95:Anonymous Adventurer
>>94
I am.
Posted in the Trouble-Shooting Thread, but I'm watching this one properly too.
Over there they told me to quit the party.
96:Anonymous Adventurer
>>95
Do NOT quit, no matter what!
You might never get into a Triple-Rank party again!
At least until you make Triple-Rank yourself—lick their boots if you have to, but do not quit!
97:Anonymous Adventurer
And thus the second Umemoto was born...
Yep. 【Berserker】 after all.