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Bulletin Board 5: Around Chapters 16, 27
Found some bulletin board content I thought I'd posted but never did, so dropping it here.
I'll be posting a new story tonight using the bulletin board as a theme.
Status updates and early releases on Fanbox—please check them out.
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About Dungeon Ace's colossal screw-up
1: Anonymous
Made this thread because I thought it'd blow up.
Haters welcome, but don't spam the same stuff over and over.
2: Anonymous
The most in-demand thread right now.
3: Anonymous
Got post 2! (Gloating)
4: Anonymous
>>3 m9(^Д^) Pffft!
6: Anonymous
Ugh, they really screwed up big time.
8: Anonymous
Can't wrap my head around what they were thinking with that move.
9: Anonymous
Came here 'cause the original thread was going crazy. Dungeon Ace really is the best, huh? (Sarcastic)
11: Anonymous
It's over for Dungeon Ace.
13: Anonymous
Guess their time's up.
15: Anonymous
m9(^Д^) Serves you right!!
17: Anonymous
Man, this might be the happiest I've been all year.
20: Anonymous
Finally, Dungeon Ace is done for.
22: Anonymous
Tonight we celebrate!
25: Anonymous
Finally kicked the bucket, huh?
26: Anonymous
Yeeaaahh!! Woohoo!!
29: Anonymous
Dungeon Ace, sucks to be youuuuu!!
31: Anonymous
Wooooooo!
32: Anonymous
Festival time!!
(Continued below: posts celebrating Dungeon Ace's screw-up)
79: Anonymous
Man, that was the best.
80: Anonymous
The patheticness was peak. Acting all high and mighty only to get completely destroyed—maximum cringe.
82: Anonymous
Amassing numbers and blasting magic only to have it all blocked is just hilarious. Though John Doe is seriously insane.
83: Anonymous
Way more satisfying than them just getting caught normally.
86: Anonymous
The schadenfreude is off the charts.
87: Anonymous
But seriously, how did Dungeon Ace not get taken down before now?
89: Anonymous
'Cause they're tight with the higher-ups.
90: Anonymous
Connected to both the Dungeon Association and the Explorers Union.
91: Anonymous
Former exploited Dungeon Ace member here, exposing them as basically loan sharks.
94: Anonymous
>>91 Loan sharks?
95: Anonymous
Basically, they're legally questionable but don't do anything too crazy.
97: Anonymous
Apparently they squeeze people by tricking them into contracts. So the exploited can't fight back.
98: Anonymous
Even their hyena tactics are legally unpunishable. Protests just get you a stern warning.
101: Anonymous
For better or worse, dungeon rules are hard to enforce inside.
102: Anonymous
They usually walked the line without crossing it, but got carried away this time.
104: Anonymous
Attacking other explorers, and announcing themselves while doing it. Best case: dissolution. Worst case...
105: Anonymous
What's the worst case?
107: Anonymous
Not the death penalty.
109: Anonymous
Attempted murder charges, plus it's inside the dungeon so even heavier penalties.
111: Anonymous
Even Train didn't get attempted murder charges?
114: Anonymous
Why'd they get so cocky this time?
115: Anonymous
>>114 Probably thought they'd gain the upper hand by catching John Doe first.
116: Anonymous
Why did they think they could catch him???
119: Anonymous
John Doe's true strength is unclear, after all.
121: Anonymous
The idea that catching him first would give them an advantage is insane. They don't have police authority.
123: Anonymous
Finally showed their true colors. Using their evil brains, those bastards.
126: Anonymous
>>121 Actually, they do.
128: Anonymous
>>126 Seriously?
130: Anonymous
Dungeon Ace is tight with both the Dungeon Association and Explorers Union. They can get permits and stuff easily. Probably had one this time too.
131: Anonymous
Their social media manipulation was seriously creepy.
132: Anonymous
According to their SNS, they were apparently requested by the Dungeon Association.
133: Anonymous
Who'd believe anything they say?
135: Anonymous
>>133 People who know nothing about dungeons.
137: Anonymous
Actually, quite a few explorers don't even know about Dungeon Ace's misdeeds.
139: Anonymous
They're seriously good at hiding stuff.
142: Anonymous
Dungeon Ace survived this long partly because they were good at that stuff. Plus suing whistleblowers for defamation.
143: Anonymous
>>142 Nope lol. How do you get sued for telling the truth? ww
144: Anonymous
They're just a popular guild 'cause they put up a good front with numbers despite their explorers not actually being that skilled.
146: Anonymous
They did have some capable people, though. But even they were exploited.
147: Anonymous
>>143 You might not know, but truth can still be defamation.
149: Anonymous
Online articles are suddenly covering all their past crimes—hilarious.
150: Anonymous
Now's the time to cash in on Dungeon Ace content.
153: Anonymous
Investigations will probably start.
155: Anonymous
They attacked while streaming, after all. No amount of Dungeon Association permits can excuse that.
156: Anonymous
Didn't even give John Doe a surrender warning.
158: Anonymous
Seriously, why'd they skip that?
160: Anonymous
They've done plenty of shady stuff, so probably a flood of whistleblowers right about now.
163: Anonymous
Sorry for being ignorant, but why does Dungeon Ace have so many explorers?
166: Anonymous
Seeing people still saying "Dungeon Ace was doing the right thing, the other party just didn't cooperate!" makes me think the world is pretty peaceful.
167: Anonymous
They were seriously good at social media and video content.
169: Anonymous
Dungeon Ace is basically like slave owners and upper class.
170: Anonymous
Why didn't the slaves report them before?
173: Anonymous
>>163,>>170 Bound by contracts and silenced with black-company-level pressure. If you tried to ignore it, they'd threaten you or send lawyers. Source: me.
174: Anonymous
>>173 Did you get out?
176: Anonymous
>>174 I bailed. Dungeon Ace is only in Tokyo, after all.
177: Anonymous
Strong.
180: Anonymous
How much worse will their charges get?
183: Anonymous
Both criminal and civil cases must be huge. Compensation claims probably in the hundred millions, right?
184: Anonymous
Though there's no talk of arrests yet.
187: Anonymous
>>184 If they don't get arrested, Japan's justice system is finished.
188: Anonymous
The thread's strong desire for them to be punished.
191: Anonymous
Any explorer who knows about them probably feels the same.
194: Anonymous
Can other shady guilds get taken down because of this too?
196: Anonymous
Police will probably step up their game.
199: Anonymous
Explorers used to get let off, but now it's clear they can be dangerous.
201: Anonymous
If they're gonna look the other way at that, they should support decent explorers instead.
203: Anonymous
Oh, Dungeon Ace shut down their SNS.
206: Anonymous
Lol.
207: Anonymous
They actually held out longer than expected. The flames were intense.
210: Anonymous
Explorers attacking Dungeon Ace and believers attacking them back. Is this hell?
213: Anonymous
Starting to feel like they're the popular kids bullying the loners just to feel good about themselves.
214: Anonymous
>>213 What a terrible impression of popular kids you have.
217: Anonymous
Never went to school so I only know the bad popular kids from manga.
218: Anonymous
Lol.
220: Anonymous
[BREAKING] Dungeon Ace members arrested upon exiting dungeon.
222: Anonymous
Served them right.
224: Anonymous
Not sorry at all, totally deserved.
226: Anonymous
Can't wait to see how far Dungeon Ace falls!! Too excited to sleep tonight!!
228: Anonymous
Hope the exploited people get saved.
230: Anonymous
Let's just compile all of Dungeon Ace's crimes.
232: Anonymous
If I compile them, I'll report everything to the police.
233: Anonymous
>>232 You probably don't have evidence.
237: Anonymous
Testimony counts. Police will investigate properly.
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[BREAKING] American explorers conquer Deep Layer!!
1: Anonymous Japanese Person
America's top clan "Knights of Liberty" has conquered the Deep Layer and reached the 5th Layer, reports DR (Dungeons Report).
Clan Master Gilbert of Knights of Liberty stated in an interview: "We're happy to have conquered the Deep Layer. It's a bit frustrating to be beaten to it, though. Everyone agrees we can't afford to stop here."
According to DR, Knights of Liberty returned to the surface to submit details before re-entering the dungeon. Other major clans have also intensified activities in response, and American dungeon exploration is expected to advance further.
The US government will hold a press conference tomorrow regarding future dungeon-related ventures. Support is expected to intensify as they attempt to take the lead in dungeon exploration.
Other countries are showing increased interest in American dungeon exploration. The Chinese government stated: "Regarding dungeons as a common frontier, it is necessary to coordinate and share information."
2: Anonymous Japanese Person
Seriously!?
3: Anonymous Japanese Person
Whoa, it's on the news...
4: Anonymous Japanese Person
America is insane.
5: Anonymous Japanese Person
Amazing breaking news. TV is going crazy.
6: Anonymous Japanese Person
Yeah! American!!
7: Anonymous Japanese Person
Too many threads popping up about this.
8: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>7 This thread was slow to start so we're behind.
9: Anonymous Japanese Person
"Knights of Liberty" clan? And what's a clan?
10: Anonymous Japanese Person
Official name is Knights of Liberty.
Translated as "Knights of Liberty."
11: Anonymous Japanese Person
Foreign clan names get lame when translated. This one's still okay.
12: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>9 Overseas, instead of Explorers Unions or Dungeon Associations, there's a large organization called Explorers Guilds. In those places, explorer groups are called clans instead of guilds.
13: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>11 Actually, Japanese is the weird one for creating sounds foreign languages don't have.
Japan's top guild "Grow Light Hand" translates to "Glowing Right Hand."
14: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>13 The top is BBQS though, just kidding.
15: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>14 Don't start controversial topics.
16: Anonymous Japanese Person
Oh, Knights of Liberty posted a video on SNS.
17: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>16 What kind of video?
18: Anonymous Japanese Person
Whoa, so this is what it's like.
19: Anonymous Japanese Person
Amazing... Different color from the Dan-Sta teleport magic circle.
20: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>17 Seems to be a way to go from the deepest part of the Deep Layer to lower layers.
21: Anonymous Japanese Person
Can this magic circle be deciphered?
22: Anonymous Japanese Person
Who knows. If it works, that's good enough, right?
23: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>21 [British research institute begins deciphering magic circle]
24: Anonymous Japanese Person
What's this?
25: Anonymous Japanese Person
Something that's been quietly discussed.
26: Anonymous Japanese Person
Since it's called a "formation," there must be logic to it—that's why they're deciphering it.
27: Anonymous Japanese Person
They hadn't deciphered it until now?
28: Anonymous Japanese Person
Nope.
29: Anonymous Japanese Person
Too few people have magic circle magic skills for research.
30: Anonymous Japanese Person
If the research succeeds, will we be able to use magic freely?
31: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>30 Won't know until they research it. Dungeons are like that.
32: Anonymous Japanese Person
This is off-topic, get back to the thread.
33: Anonymous Japanese Person
Sorry.
34: Anonymous Japanese Person
Dungeon topics always scatter.
35: Anonymous Japanese Person
Dungeon stuff is just too interesting.
36: Anonymous Japanese Person
No streams of the 5th Layer?
37: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>36 Not happening, they won't stream it.
38: Anonymous Japanese Person
Hiding information benefits them. Even if explorers share among themselves, general public won't see it.
39: Anonymous Japanese Person
We barely even see Deep Layer footage.
40: Anonymous Japanese Person
I only watch dungeon stuff casually, so I'm not very knowledgeable—how amazing is this American breakthrough?
41: Anonymous Japanese Person
Japan's dungeon exploration is definitely behind.
42: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>41 Compared to America, everywhere is.
43: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>40
Dungeons are divided into Upper, Middle, Lower, and Deep Layers, each further divided into multiple districts.
Think of them like game stages, each with boss monsters. Upper-1, Upper-2...Lower-15, like that.
Currently Japan has reached Deep-11, while China, Russia, and Europe are pushing around Deep-15.
Meanwhile, America conquered Deep-30.
By the way, advancing one stage (called districts in dungeons) in the Deep Layer takes at least a month, sometimes longer.
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44: Anonymous Japanese Person
The deeper you go in each layer—meaning the higher the stage number—the more time it takes to move there, increasing exploration time.
For example, reaching Lower-10 often requires 10 hours of marching.
In such cases, large legions split into attack groups that move together then explore, and defense groups that build bases in safer areas.
Meanwhile, America suddenly cleared stages Deep-15 onward, which were thought to take particularly long to conquer.
By the way, until recently America was said to have reached Deep-18, but they must have progressed much further in secret.
45: Anonymous Japanese Person
Supplementary info~
Japan's Deep-11 is "the deepest point currently active explorers have reached."
In the past, people went deeper—excluding John Doe, through normal guilds and parties.
But even including that, America's Deep-18 was the cutting edge.
So there was experience and map info accumulation up to Deep-18, but nothing beyond.
They just updated that significantly by conquering the Deep Layer.
Even if Japan started from Deep-18 and made absurdly smooth progress, it'd still take 2-3 years.
Though it would change significantly if pioneers shared map info and such.
46: Anonymous Japanese Person
Hearing it again, isn't this progress weird?
47: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>46 The front-runners were hiding their true progress.
48: Anonymous Japanese Person
No reason to be honest about it.
49: Anonymous Japanese Person
They were probably already at District 27 or so in secret, then pushed hard after hearing about John Doe.
50: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>47 I think the US government ordered them to keep it secret.
Top-class guilds, parties, and explorers are important to the country and can't be ignored. Probably getting support funds in Japan too.
In exchange, the government probably controls cutting-edge info to some degree.
Especially dungeon conquest progress, which now directly affects international power balance.
51: Anonymous Japanese Person
Can't call it a conspiracy theory.
That's totally plausible with dungeons.
52: Anonymous Japanese Person
So other countries might be hiding stuff too?
53: Anonymous Japanese Person
Probably.
Even in Japan, the front-runners' progress is all self-reported without footage.
Actually, aren't they all exploring jointly?
54: Anonymous Japanese Person
Well, immediate Deep Layer conquest probably won't happen.
If it were possible, other countries would announce it too.
55: Anonymous Japanese Person
American company stocks are soaring.
Deep Layer conquest is huge.
56: Anonymous Japanese Person
Does this actually affect anything?
57: Anonymous Japanese Person
Not for general explorers or normal people.
Stock fluctuations and exchange rates might get a bit volatile, but that's about it.
58: Anonymous Japanese Person
Compared to the front-liners clearing the way and those behind them advancing while sharing info, us regular explorers are just doing moderate work—that's what my party member said.
59: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>58 Explorer here, yo!
60: Anonymous Japanese Person
Actually, I'm just progressing at my own pace, so major discoveries at the front don't really affect me.
61: Anonymous Japanese Person
But this should hype up dungeon exploration for a while.
62: Anonymous Japanese Person
TV is already doing special programs.
63: Anonymous Japanese Person
Honestly, since this is the first Deep Layer breakthrough, no idea what'll happen.
Curious how scholars and such will react.
64: Anonymous Japanese Person
In the past, when people advanced to new districts, new items would appear and upper layer stuff would get cheaper.
65: Anonymous Japanese Person
Though Upper-6 onward and Middle Layer stuff still pays well even now.
66: Anonymous Japanese Person
Wasn't it said that Deep Layer monsters go for several hundred thousand per individual?
67: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>66 Depends heavily on type, but the profitable ones should be worth even more.
68: Anonymous Japanese Person
Dungeon money movements are intense.
69: Anonymous Japanese Person
Will advancing to lower layers become the norm?
70: Anonymous Japanese Person
I'm an explorer but I value my life too much.
My current earnings are fine.
71: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>69 Who knows.
An explorer's career can only advance to the Deep Layer.
Even if someone reached the Deep Layer, when they retire, new explorers have to advance themselves.
Dungeons don't really allow accumulation.
72: Anonymous Japanese Person
Even with accumulated map info, explorers' strength and levels have to increase to advance.
73: Anonymous Japanese Person
That's exactly why this American breakthrough is insane.
74: Anonymous Japanese Person
Information does accumulate over time, so progress does happen generationally.
75: Anonymous Japanese Person
Want to see what monsters appear in the Deep Layer depths and 5th Layer.
76: Anonymous Japanese Person
Won't be public for a while.
77: Anonymous Japanese Person
In Japan, the guilds pushing that hard have only reached around Deep-5...
78: Anonymous Japanese Person
It's insane that they got that far with filming as their main priority.
79: Anonymous Japanese Person
Used game terminology like Upper-1 for simplicity, but this way is apparently easier to understand.
80: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>79 Actually, saying "Upper Layer District 1" or whatever would be more annoying.
81: Anonymous Japanese Person
Are Japanese guilds and parties not reacting to this?
82: Anonymous Japanese Person
Just once, I want explorers to fight each other to see who's strongest.
83: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>81 Individuals are reacting but nothing major from organizations.
84: Anonymous Japanese Person
Even if they react, explorers can only say "amazing" and "we'll work harder too."
85: Anonymous Japanese Person
Speaking of reactions, what about Chimera-chan?
Chimera: "Is the meat there delicious?"
86: Anonymous Japanese Person
Food-obsessed Dtuber, yo!
87: Anonymous Japanese Person
She's one of the strongest solo explorers, that girl.
88: Anonymous Japanese Person
"Girl who got strong through gluttony"—what an embarrassing nickname.
89: Anonymous Japanese Person
What's her affiliation status again?
Still undecided?
90: Anonymous Japanese Person
For her, eating takes priority over advancing.
91: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>89 I think she said undecided until she graduates from training.
Also mentioned high possibility of staying solo.
92: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>90 She can't sell items because she's in training.
93: Anonymous Japanese Person
That system's pretty meaningless now. There's separate testing from training.
No point in restricting only trainees from selling items.
94: Anonymous Japanese Person
As combat potential, I think Chimera-chan is the most promising.
95: Anonymous Japanese Person
Someone please share more info—dungeon exploration won't progress like this.
96: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>95 Dungeon exploration has been called a turtle's pace since forever.
Advancing through unknown places while dealing with dangerous monsters naturally takes longer than human expansion on Earth.
97: Anonymous Japanese Person
Not that vast, though.
98: Anonymous Japanese Person
There won't be sudden huge leaps.
99: Anonymous Japanese Person
America progressed though. And John Doe isn't exactly taking it easy either.
100: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>99 Outliers don't count.
101: Anonymous Japanese Person
America was hiding their strength or progress. No idea about John Doe. That guy should share info.
102: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>101 Hyena-ing off others' achievements is not allowed.
103: Anonymous Japanese Person
Dungeon exploration is basically a public service.
Sharing obtained info would improve exploration efficiency.
Rather, other explorers hiding cutting-edge info is what's weird.
104: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>103 Don't think that far, but I do think overall levels would rise and things would go smoother if they shared.
105: Anonymous Japanese Person
Individual interests, you know.
Especially front-line explorers earning millions per day.
106: Anonymous Japanese Person
Should've decided from the start that the government buys that info.
107: Anonymous Japanese Person
They wouldn't want to spend that much money.
108: Anonymous Japanese Person
Feels like we're off-topic, but nothing beyond the news anyway, so can't be helped.
109: Anonymous Japanese Person
Dungeon exploration should really be a public service advancing steadily.
Russia and China are pushing it that way.
America is different—major corporations are moving in full force, making huge progress.
Japan is still acting like small companies, so no progress.
110: Anonymous Japanese Person
Both the Dungeon Association and Explorers Union are hollowed out...
They just handle dungeon entry/exit procedures.
We seriously pay taxes for that?
111: Anonymous Japanese Person
Weren't the top ranks of the Dungeon Association and Explorers Union cleaned up after that incident?
112: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>111 What's that?
113: Anonymous Japanese Person
Heard there was trouble at the top over Dungeon Ace attacking John Doe.
114: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>111 I'm just a low-level employee, but this is real. Sudden department transfers and such are happening.
115: Anonymous Japanese Person
Staff person, yo!
116: Anonymous Japanese Person
Hope the dirty parts get cleaned up.
117: Anonymous Japanese Person
What do the Dungeon Association and Explorers Union normally do?
I know they manage dungeon entry/exit.
118: Anonymous Japanese Person
Is it okay to talk about that stuff?
119: Anonymous Japanese Person
General overview should be fine.
120: Anonymous Japanese Person
Honestly, I don't feel any benefits.
121: Anonymous Japanese Person
Besides entry/exit management, they plan patrols for shallow dungeon layers and support cutting-edge conquest.
Also supposedly manage rare items and create dungeon maps.
122: Anonymous Japanese Person
They do quite a bit?
123: Anonymous Japanese Person
More proper than I thought.
124: Anonymous Japanese Person
Though most of it turned into suspended projects after money disappeared somewhere.
Item management is a struggle because shops are privately licensed, so just checking submitted documents is exhausting. Dungeon mapping supposedly has budget but who knows where it went.
125: Anonymous Japanese Person
Totally corrupt.
126: Anonymous Japanese Person
Lol ww
127: Anonymous Japanese Person
Don't "lol" w at this...
Actually no, this deserves "lol."
128: Anonymous Japanese Person
Seriously worthless.
129: Anonymous Japanese Person
Are you kidding me????
Why is this allowed????
130: Anonymous Japanese Person
Don't know much about the Explorers Union side, but they supposedly have info on all explorers, so doing something with that.
Actually, I suspect the Dungeon Association pays the Explorers Union and it's getting skimmed and disappearing.
131: Anonymous Japanese Person
Ugh, this...
132: Anonymous Japanese Person
Pure garbage.
133: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>114 Did this get fixed?
134: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>133 Don't know if all of it, but it should. At least the top is being cleaned up with massive department transfers happening.
>>129 You see, there's this thing called power in this world...
My colleague who sued got in a traffic accident (for real).
135: Anonymous Japanese Person
Ugh...
136: Anonymous Japanese Person
That corrupt?
137: Anonymous Japanese Person
Probably not just within the Dungeon Association and Explorers Union.
Profitable interests that can reach politicians.
138: Anonymous Japanese Person
Will they be able to work properly now?
139: Anonymous Japanese Person
>>138 Don't expect anything from the Dungeon Association or Explorers Union now.
140: Anonymous Japanese Person
Honestly starting from scratch.
Might contact foreign guilds (public ones) for training and such.
>>139 That's exactly what was mentioned earlier—properly organizing explorers as a country.
141: Anonymous Japanese Person
Well, I'll wait without expectations.
142: Anonymous Japanese Person
Explorers already cooperate through guilds and parties.
143: Anonymous Japanese Person
Good example of private sector working hard because the government won't.
144: Anonymous Japanese Person
Surprising Japan kept up with Europe despite everything.