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Middle Layer Exploration Records Internal Sharing Thread

1：Anonymous Explorer

Previous thread omitted. While collecting information from Amamiya Kanata's stream, let's search for John Doe's stream.

2：Anonymous Explorer

I'm here, but how do you search for a stream?

3：Anonymous Explorer

Normally, either the explorer's name or guild name becomes the channel name, so you'd search for that, or if there's a stream title, you'd look for that.

4：Anonymous Explorer

So I should search for "John Doe," then?

5：Anonymous Explorer

Unfortunately, nope, it doesn't show up.

6：Anonymous Explorer

I tried searching for "John Doe stream" and stuff, but nothing comes up.

7：Anonymous Explorer

Maybe the name is different?

8：Anonymous Explorer

Could be.

9：Anonymous Explorer

If I'm being serious, channels with extremely few subscribers naturally don't appear at the top of search results. Other search results containing "John Doe" get prioritized.

10：Anonymous Explorer

Huh? Then how do we find it?

11：Anonymous Explorer

WeTube dungeon streams and regular streams are mixed together, so other candidates hit the search.

12：Anonymous Explorer

Isn't it obvious? We go through them one by one.

13：Anonymous Explorer

Huh?

14：Anonymous Explorer

Huh?

15：Anonymous Explorer

What do you mean?

16：Anonymous Explorer

Already starting—going through all live channels one by one.

17：Anonymous Explorer

By the way, WeTube unfortunately hasn't implemented a sorting function for dungeon streams and other streams yet, but if you keep watching dungeon streams, the learning algorithm will start recommending dungeon-related stuff.

18：Anonymous Explorer

Why doesn't Goguru separate WeTube from streaming sites for streaming?

19：Anonymous Explorer

Probably because not separating them is more profitable. Even with regular WeTube, you get interested in videos from other genres while watching one, right? If you isolate dungeon stuff, that goes away.

20：Anonymous Explorer

There's the debate about how to separate dungeon streams and videos, huh.

21：Anonymous Explorer

Going through them one by one... you mean we have to watch all of them...?

22：Anonymous Explorer

If I scroll, there's an insane number. Think we'll find it?

23：Anonymous Explorer

It's not about whether we'll find it or not. It's about whether we'll make sure we find it.

24：Anonymous Explorer

Getting told that in a proverb-like way makes me a bit hesitant.

25：External Investigation Team

I'll check other threads and SNS for a bit.

26：Amamiya Kanata Stream Viewing Team

Just a status report. The image is shaking so much we can barely see anything. Occasionally, we can hear Kana-chan and Aka-chan's groans and screams. They're probably moving at incredible speed.

27：Anonymous Explorer

For the live channel-checking team, no need to watch channels with lots of viewers. If information hasn't gotten out elsewhere, only a very small number to a few people are probably watching.

28：Anonymous Explorer

Aye aye, sir!

29：Anonymous Explorer

Damn it, I was taking it easy, and now it's turned into simple manual labor!

30：Anonymous Explorer

Endure, my PC! Hang in there for me!

31：Anonymous Explorer

Even the thread starter is surprised it's tougher than expected, but I'll do my best to search too.

32：Anonymous Explorer

Man, I've been at it for a bit, but there are too many streams!

33：Anonymous Explorer

These days, dungeon streams are treated like lifelines, you know... Anyone making decent money or living off the dungeon is probably doing it.

34：Anonymous Explorer

It's not really streaming, just video recording though.

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67：Anonymous Explorer

Damn, I'm starting to have stream gestalt collapse.

68：Anonymous Explorer

>>67 What the heck is that?

69：Anonymous Explorer

I can only recognize streams as streams. The content goes into my head, but I erase it like work before I can process it.

70：Amamiya Kanata Stream Viewing Team

Regular report. Kana-chan and Aka-chan seem to be at their limit soon. The screaming has stopped, and now they just groan occasionally.

71：Anonymous Explorer

If we don't find the stream before it ends, and John Doe ends his stream, we won't find it anymore.

72：External Investigation Team

No sighting info outside the thread. The brute-force team seems completely focused.

73：Anonymous Explorer

Occasionally someone tired pops up.

74：Anonymous Explorer

Found it—————！！！！！！！

75：Amamiya Kanata Stream Viewing Team

They've stopped moving. Amamiya Kanata and Hachijoji Akane have dismounted (or did they fall off?) Completely groggy.

John Doe placed a camera beside them and is doing something.

76：Anonymous Explorer

They stopped, huh.

77：Anonymous Explorer

About 2 hours, maybe?

78：Anonymous Explorer

If the stream gets cut, it's over.

79：Anonymous Explorer

We found it————————！！！ We finally did！！！！！！

80：Anonymous Explorer

79, you're too loud.

81：Anonymous Explorer

Don't make a ruckus, it's stressing my concentration.

82：79

No, I'm saying we found John Doe's stream!!!! John Doe is definitely on screen right now！！！

83：Anonymous Explorer

Oh, right.

84：Anonymous Explorer

Yeah, yeah.

85：Anonymous Explorer

Hm?

86：Anonymous Explorer

Wait, what's happenin

87：Anonymous Explorer

>>82 Say that first！！！

88：79

I said it！！！

89：External Investigation Team

You guys have gone stupid from repeating the same task too much.

90：Anonymous Explorer

Which channel!?

91：Anonymous Explorer

URL! Channel or live, just hurry up！！！

92：79

This is it！！

【URL】

93：Anonymous Explorer

If this is fake, I'll fu**ing kill you.

94：Anonymous Explorer

You're too exhausted, aren't you?

95：Anonymous Explorer

Well, anyone would go crazy doing such simple repetitive work for 2 hours straight.

96：Anonymous Explorer

So, is this for real?

97：Anonymous Explorer

Hello...?

98：Anonymous Explorer

Hey, hey...

99：Anonymous Explorer

Seriously. Everyone's posting over there and not looking here anymore.

100：Anonymous Explorer

Say that kind of thing first！！

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111：External Investigation Team

Glad you found it safely. Sorry, but I'm gonna have to leave first. Got real life stuff to deal with...

112：Anonymous Explorer

Later. Want me to ask them to save an archive?

113：External Investigation Team

I'd be happy if you did, but whether that's okay with John Doe depends on him.

114：Anonymous Explorer

I see. Well, I'll ask about that too. If there's nothing problematic, they can explain it here.

115：External Investigation Team

Alrighty.

116：Anonymous Explorer

Later then.

117：Anonymous Explorer

Crap

118：Anonymous Explorer

What do we do now? If they end the stream, it's over.

119：Anonymous Explorer

Saying things like "you should do XX" doesn't seem to be taboo, though.

120：Anonymous Explorer

>>119 The one who said that has too much courage.

121：Anonymous Explorer

Sorry, I wasn't thinking...

122：Anonymous Explorer

So there really are people who find him troublesome, huh.

123：Anonymous Explorer

Gotta be careful not to step on landmines.

124：Anonymous Explorer

I don't think you need to be that careful, though.

125：Anonymous Explorer

>>124 He might not actually mind, but we're being careful because if he minds and stops streaming, we'd hate that.

126：Anonymous Explorer

Then again, if we act like yes-men and suck up to him, he might hate that too, or rather, he's expensive, so we really have to carefully strike the right balance.

127：Anonymous Explorer

He did say he basically ignores stuff, though.

128：Anonymous Explorer

Be careful until you can read the line.

129：Anonymous Explorer

That wolf is pretty big, isn't it?

130：Anonymous Explorer

I wonder how strong it is.

131：Anonymous Explorer

Strong enough to one-shot parties that go to clear it?

132：Anonymous Explorer

It looks cute for how strong it apparently is.

133：Anonymous Explorer

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa？？？？？？

134：Anonymous Explorer

Back mountain

135：Anonymous Explorer

The world's most valuable question right now.

136：Anonymous Explorer

Top parties would probably pay a lot for it.

137：Anonymous Explorer

But if I were told to ask it now, I couldn't think of anything.

138：Anonymous Explorer

It's hard to ask the maximum in one go, isn't it?

139：Anonymous Explorer

Mmmmmhhh？？？？？

140：Anonymous Explorer

Stop suddenly hitting us with "My common sense is uncommon sense."

141：Anonymous Explorer

This really became a stream you can't share with others, huh.

142：Anonymous Explorer

The informational value is too high.

143：Anonymous Explorer

Just curious, but how strong are the people here? Just the ones exploring, that is.

I can barely enter the middle layer.

144：Anonymous Explorer

Up to district 10 of the middle layer.

145：Anonymous Explorer

I can dive into the lower layer～

146：Anonymous Explorer

Middle layer for me.

147：Anonymous Explorer

I think I can clear the middle layer soon.

148：Anonymous Explorer

Deep layer is probably tough for me.

149：Anonymous Explorer

Early lower layer.

150：Anonymous Explorer

Early middle layer.

151：Anonymous Explorer

Upper layer, yeah....

152：Anonymous Explorer

There are a lot of capable people, aren't there?

153：Anonymous Explorer

I'm surprised there are so many who can go to the lower layer than I thought.

154：Anonymous Explorer

Well, John Doe is saying he one-shots deep layer bosses, though.

155：Anonymous Explorer

That's gotta be a bug.

156：Anonymous Explorer

Is he angry or something?

157：Anonymous Explorer

The atmosphere might have changed.

158：Anonymous Explorer

Seriously?

159：Anonymous Explorer

I'll make a note of that.

160：Anonymous Explorer

Absolutely no leaks.

161：Anonymous Explorer

162：Anonymous Explorer

163：Anonymous Explorer

164：Anonymous Explorer

165：Anonymous Explorer

166：Anonymous Explorer

I thought my heart was gonna stop.

167：Anonymous Explorer

The pressure, the pressure...

168：Anonymous Explorer

That thing is giving off pressure that makes deep layer bosses look like nothing.

169：Anonymous Explorer

He was completely silent.

170：Anonymous Explorer

But I kind of understand John Doe a bit better now.

171：Anonymous Explorer

I really get that he loves dungeons.

172：Anonymous Explorer

Maybe he's frustrated that the people around him can't keep up with what he can do.

173：Anonymous Explorer

Does he feel lonely, or something like that?

174：Anonymous Explorer

Kind of like a strong person's solitude, I guess.

175：Anonymous Explorer

I feel like it's a bit different, though.

176：Anonymous Explorer

Getting serious, huh.

177：Anonymous Explorer

He says he only does what he's in the mood for, but I bet when he is in the mood for something, he gets seriously into it normally.

178：Anonymous Explorer

Maybe he hates living life half-heartedly.

179：Anonymous Explorer

>>178 I definitely get the feeling he's "living life with all he's got."

180：Anonymous Explorer

Swing practice, maybe I'll give it a try.

181：Anonymous Explorer

Magic power manipulation, maybe I'll test it out. The benefits when you can do it are huge, you know.

182：Anonymous Explorer

I'll tell my party members I'm resting for a while.

183：Anonymous Explorer

If your party rests too much, you'll get dropped, you know.

184：Anonymous Explorer

I don't mind.

After being taught that seriously, I can't do half-hearted exploring anymore.

185：Anonymous Explorer

Magic power manipulation, maybe close-combat types get more benefits than magic users.

186：Anonymous Explorer

Can magic types not do things like use magic power manipulation to increase power or improve efficiency?

187：Anonymous Explorer

>>186 I'm a magic type, but I'll try following this path.

188：Anonymous Explorer

Speaking of which, is anyone still watching that loner guy?

189：Anonymous Explorer

Yeah, if we're going to, I'd like to invite that loner guy here too.

190：Anonymous Explorer

I'll post it in the stream comments, then.

191：Anonymous Explorer

Is it okay to do that in someone's stream?

192：Anonymous Explorer

Normally it's not. It's spam, after all. But John Doe just lets comments flow without checking, so I think he'd forgive a single line.

193：Anonymous Explorer

I'll leave a message for John Doe while inviting loner guy, then.

194：Anonymous Explorer

Shouldn't we wait for a response?

195：Anonymous Explorer

>>193 You should ask permission and wait. He seems to read the comment section to some extent.

196：Thread Starter

This is the thread starter. After various considerations, I've decided to continue similar threads with the same title or similar titles with numbers attached. The password will be the same as this thread, so if you see one, please join without letting others know. Also, to avoid standing out, we'll use sage progression, and if it exceeds 500, I'll make a new thread and pretend this one didn't complete.

197：Anonymous Explorer

Appreciate it.

198：Anonymous Explorer

Thanks, thread starter.

199：Anonymous Explorer

Seriously hiding threads without letting them complete is hardcore. So it's okay if the person who makes 500 makes it? Then let's move by 520.

200：Anonymous Explorer

Won't it stand out if there are too many, though?

201：Anonymous Explorer

Let's do that, then. Should we post about training, swing practice, or magic power manipulation progress too?

202：Anonymous Explorer

>>200 Hey, hey, we can just adjust the numbers.

203：Anonymous Explorer

This will be the only place we can share this, after all.

204：Anonymous Explorer

If we post this outside, it's obvious we'll face troublesome consequences.

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Middle Layer Exploration Records Internal Sharing Thread 3

55：Anonymous Trainee

Still no sign of the surface?

56：Anonymous Trainee

Feels like it. Today is the 4th day including the first day.

57：Anonymous Trainee

Normally, food would be running out by now. It's amazing that you can get food from dungeon monsters.

58：Anonymous Trainee

I guess everything beyond the deep layer is like that?

59：Anonymous Trainee

Nah, you know there are some you can eat even in the lower and deep layers. Well, there are also some that kill you if you eat them, though.

60：Anonymous Trainee

Really!?

61：Anonymous Trainee

There are streamers who do cooking streams with that stuff, though it's pretty niche.

62：Anonymous Trainee

Big Boar meat gets served outside the dungeon too, you know.

63：Anonymous Trainee

>>62 I thought that was at least upper layer stuff. Also, inorganic-type monsters start appearing quite a bit from the middle layer onward.

64：Anonymous Trainee

This is bad. If I make time for training at night, my sleep gets shorter. I think I might have to stop exploring for a bit. At least I have money.

65：Anonymous Trainee

I'm a solo explorer who can handle middle-level parties, and I changed from a 1-week cycle of 5 days exploring, 2 days off to a 4-day cycle of 2 days training, 1 day exploring, 1 day off. Today's my day off, but I feel like I can rest my body, refresh myself, and review my exploration to move on to tomorrow's training, so it feels pretty feasible. Also, maybe thanks to the training, the exploration went well too.

66：Anonymous Trainee

>>65 I never thought of shifting the rotation from 1 week.

67：Anonymous Trainee

I was trying to manage within 7 days by shifting rest days and stuff, but since it's not an even number, it was tricky. But for explorers, I guess that's an option.

68：Anonymous Trainee

Parties that dive with clans or raids apparently work continuously for over a week straight and rest for like a week or half a month when it's long.

69：Anonymous Trainee

They earn enough to do that, after all.

70：Anonymous Trainee

Not us. We're in a state where if we don't dive every day and earn every day, we can't make a living！

71：Anonymous Trainee

>>70 Seriously. Save up a bit and live seriously for a while, then train like John Doe said or watch WeTube explanation videos and learn. It's obvious that things will go better if you have prior knowledge and practice before just doing it relentlessly. Also, the earnings between upper and middle, and middle and lower layers change by nearly double each. By the way, lower and deep layers are way more than double that.

72：Anonymous Trainee

But don't get cocky just because you trained or studied. You're supposed to use the knowledge and skills you gained and give it your all with the desperation of someone facing death！

73：Anonymous Trainee

>>70 For real. Maybe I'll save a bit and give it a try.

74：Anonymous Trainee

I've watched top-tier explanation videos on WeTube, but when I actually swung my sword,

I realized this is what really matters.

75：Anonymous Trainee

There aren't many explanation videos, either. The information is too important, and nobody wants to share it. And what little there is only covers up to the early middle layer.

76：Anonymous Trainee

That's why Dan-Sta is desperately trying to make content up to the middle layer depths, but it's pretty unpopular.

77：Anonymous Trainee

It's the fight over pie. Even the front line only stops at the 2nd area past the middle layer, and it's where the bulk of earners are.

78：Anonymous Trainee

Actually, I understa—ahh

79：Anonymous Trainee

Oh, you made it?

80：Anonymous Trainee

>>78 >>79 What's up?

81：Anonymous Trainee

Watch the stream—Kana-chan's.

82：Anonymous Trainee

Apparently they reached the deepest part of the deep layer.

83：Anonymous Trainee

Really!? For real!? Is he gonna take on the Dullahan!!

84：Anonymous Trainee

Last night was seriously nerve-wracking.

85：Anonymous Trainee

He's really going? Too kind. Wait, they're moving again?

86：Anonymous Trainee

Dan-Sta, you see...

87：Anonymous Trainee

No, not Dan-Sta, the other guilds. The top tiers aren't really involved, but the upper-lower to middle-middle tiers are pretty involved, you know.

88：Anonymous Trainee

Riling up people on SNS who don't really understand and making them pile on to pressure Dan-Sta is just shitty quality behavior.

89：Anonymous Trainee

The comment section was a mess too, after all.

90：Anonymous Trainee

If Kana-chan and Aka-chan get hated by John Doe because of this, everyone around them would be the war criminals.

91：Anonymous Trainee

Nah, that won't happen. John Doe said it too, didn't he? "The moment you pressure someone..."

92：Anonymous Trainee

It's harsh, but I get what he's trying not to say. John Doe seems to understand his position to some extent and is defending himself.

93：Anonymous Trainee

The stream became limited access without us realizing, too. With how it's going, even if there's an archive, it'll probably be limited.

94：Anonymous Trainee

Thinking about it now, John Doe's position is tricky, huh.

95：Anonymous Trainee

In terms of fighting power, he's probably currently the strongest individual, but he's not the type to force that on others.

96：Anonymous Trainee

When there's something he doesn't like, he doesn't push it aside—he goes where there isn't that problem and lives alone. The dungeon made that possible for him.

97：Anonymous Trainee

What about backing? Like getting support from some big organization or even the country?

98：Anonymous Trainee

He'd hate that. That guy hates that kind of thing, right?

99：Anonymous Trainee

>>98 Nah, that's wrong. He's the type who's okay if he chooses it himself, but no good if it's forced on him by others.

100：Anonymous Trainee

>>99 This is it.

101：Anonymous Trainee

He's the type you have to get him to want to do it himself.

102：Anonymous Trainee

Though it's just a video, the movement speed has increased.

103：Anonymous Trainee

It has increased. On Kana-chan's side too, the movement is too fast and the image is all blurry.

104：Anonymous Trainee

The guys who were trying to gather information about the deep layer are all screaming in agony.

105：Anonymous Trainee

John definitely knows what he's doing.

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119：Anonymous Trainee

Oh, they made it?

120：Anonymous Trainee

Looks like they did.

121：Anonymous Trainee

Write it down or something

"Hey, I'm gonna take on the Dullahan now. Is everyone awake?"

122：Anonymous Trainee

Everyone's probably watching John Doe's stream, though.

123：Anonymous Trainee

Well, if you're gonna do it, I'll count on you to record it for us. Also, for interactions with you guys, not John Doe, I'll use this thread.

124：Anonymous Trainee

"Oh, you're already starting it up for me. That makes me happy."

125：Anonymous Trainee

"Kanata-ojou, what do you do with the drone during combat?"

"It has a program built in for filming combat, so when fighting starts, it films in the same style as usual filming. You should be able to set things like overhead shots, POV shots, tracking, etc. from your smartphone."

"I see. Hm? But it couldn't keep up with Robo's dash—can it film combat?"

"That depends on the drone's performance. If it's too fast a battle, it'll probably get blurry."

"I see, thanks."

126：Anonymous Trainee

Is it okay if I save and keep this stream recording?

127：Anonymous Trainee

...As long as we don't release it outside, it should be fine, right?

128：Anonymous Trainee

It might be a crime against parental authority, but it's best not to do it　I'll record it too

129：Anonymous Trainee

Ask them to leave an archive.

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140：Anonymous Trainee

This is it, huh

141：Anonymous Trainee

We were doing some sweet stuff earlier, but honestly, I'm more interested in this part.

142：Anonymous Trainee

Maybe because since being lectured by John Doe before, I keep thinking about that kind of stuff, and my thoughts lean that way.

143：Anonymous Trainee

>>142 I get it. It feels like a switch has been flipped.

144：Anonymous Trainee

The top tiers do that intentionally. Of course, you can't relax in the lower or deep layers like you can on the surface, and conversely, if you stay as tense as in the lower or deep layers while on the surface, you'll break. So they switch gears the moment they dive into the dungeon or arrive at a layer. Well, there are some who can't do it even at the entrance level of the lower layer.

It's tough when you don't switch between training/learning time and relaxation time.

145：Anonymous Trainee

>>144 Seriously, thanks. I'll be careful.

146：Anonymous Trainee

As a lower layer dweller, I'm shocked to learn something I didn't know.

147：Anonymous Trainee

There are differences even in the lower layer, huh.

148：Anonymous Trainee

Oh, it's starting

149：Anonymous Trainee

"A Dullahan is a monster that defends with its sturdy armor as its body and attacks with a greatsword swung with incredible power. Its size is about the same as a human, but if you let your guard down, you'll get seriously hurt."

"Simple, but strong because it's simple. At least for explorers at the level to challenge this place, they probably couldn't take a hit properly. Well, so what? That kind of thing can be handled with technique."

150：Anonymous Trainee

...

151：Anonymous Trainee

All I could understand was "that's amazing." Is that something people at deep layer level can do? There was someone around that level, right?

152：Anonymous Trainee

The thread completely stopped...

153：Anonymous Trainee

I'm a solo explorer in the deep lower layer, but honestly, I feel like I could probably do it spec-wise. The final blow would be impossible, but the exchange up to that point...

154：Anonymous Trainee

You can do it?

155：Anonymous Trainee

So he demonstrated it while holding back to that level, huh?

156：Anonymous Trainee

>>155 What he said during combat was only picked up on our stream. Whether intentional or not, we're the only ones who understood that.

157：Anonymous Trainee

Seriously?

158：Deep Lower Layer Solo Explorer

Hey, attention～ I said it might be possible spec-wise earlier, but that's only spec-wise. I'm telling you that technically, it's completely impossible for me.

159：Anonymous Trainee

Is it that kind of thing?

160：Anonymous Trainee

"Technically," so you mean timing and such? So you're saying power and speed are sufficient?

161：Deep Lower Layer Solo Explorer

For reference, here are my explorer specs:

Height: 175cm, Weight: 65kg
I consider myself a technique type, but I have more power than I look
Weapons: buckler and one-handed sword, no magic, close-combat main solo explorer
Has solo explored to the deepest part of the lower layer

162：Anonymous Trainee

Yes?

163：Anonymous Trainee

More of a monster than I thought, lol

164：Anonymous Trainee

What does it mean to solo the deepest part of the lower layer...

165：Anonymous Trainee

If you're that strong, why go solo?

166：Deep Lower Layer Solo Explorer

Well, let's set that aside for now.

When I said it's possible spec-wise, I meant that if you have about as much power as me, you could probably do what John Doe did.

When I said it's technically impossible, I meant that the moment I take the opponent's sword strike with my sword, redirecting it with appropriate force is absolutely impossible for me.

167：Anonymous Trainee

I don't get it

168：Anonymous Trainee

I want to know how you judged that

169：Anonymous Trainee

Could you explain it in a bit more detail?

170：Anonymous Trainee

John Doe looks like he's moving again, so explain it～

171：Deep Lower Layer Solo Explorer

Got it.

First, when John Doe was parrying the Dullahan's sword, I saw that as completely a product of technique, not him using force to deflect it. You'd need minimum power, honestly, with the muscle strength of a lower layer front-line fighter, you could do it.

More problematic is the incredible technique, and then things like reflexes. Some might have noticed, but when he parried the attack from the Dullahan, the sound when the Dullahan and John Doe's swords collided was incredibly small. The moment the swords touch, from just before, he appropriately releases his own strength, absorbs the shock with his body's springiness, and instead of rebounding, changes the direction toward where he wants to deflect it—and he's doing that in the instant the enemy swings their sword down. But that doesn't mean he gets overpowered by the opponent's sword; he properly changes direction and deflects the attack. After receiving the sword and nullifying the shock, he's adding proper force from the state of contact.

172：Anonymous Trainee

...Even hearing the explanation, I don't get it

173：Anonymous Trainee

I kind of get it, but also kind of don't

174：Anonymous Trainee

I did understand that he was doing incredible work in the instant the sword was swung down

175：Anonymous Trainee

I felt like I understood when I tried drawing a picture, so I'll share it. Have you ever had the experience of jumping down from a high place, landing on your toes, and absorbing the momentum with the muscles in your knees and legs, making no sound?

176：Anonymous Trainee

I have

177：Anonymous Trainee

I don't know about sound, never thought about it, but it feels like I'm lessening the impact

178：Anonymous Trainee

The sound at impact is ultimately caused by the momentum of something colliding with something else, so you just have to avoid that, right?

179：Anonymous Trainee

As an image, instead of landing as one clump and slamming your feet into the ground when jumping down from high up, at the moment your feet touch the ground, you release the strength in your feet while pulling them upward, changing the relative speed difference between your feet and the ground at the moment of impact. The moment your feet touch the ground, you pull your feet in, but you don't separate them from the ground; your feet stay touching the ground, but your weight isn't on them, like that.

If you don't get it, imagine punching a wall. With that, at the moment your hand touches the wall, you release the strength in your hand and imagine your hand being fixed at the point of contact with the wall. You're pulling the momentum of the punch not into the wall but into your own body.

180：Anonymous Trainee

>>179 Ah, I get it. When jumping down, you just kill the momentum as is and roll forward or something

181：Anonymous Trainee

I can't put it into words, but I have the image. Your feet are on the ground, but you're not relying on that; you're shifting your weight. With the punch too, your hand is touching the wall, but that's just touching; you fix that point and receive the momentum with your own body

182：Anonymous Trainee

What is that?

183：Deep Lower Layer Solo Explorer

He was doing that with the opponent's sword. At the moment of receiving a sword charging at you with momentum, instead of firmly fixing and receiving it, you move your hands while receiving, and the moment the swords completely connect, you guide the direction of force toward deflecting the Dullahan's sword, deflecting it completely without giving any shock to your own body or sword,

—I mean, even putting it into words sounds like fiction, but I think he's seriously doing that kind of thing in that one instant. At least, the Dullahan's attacks looked normal to me, and that's the impression I got

184：Anonymous Trainee

I understood that it's so incredible my understanding can't keep up

185：Anonymous Trainee

Ah, I get this. It's not swordsmanship, but rather physics, or thinking about physical phenomena

186：Anonymous Trainee

You mean action-reaction?

187：Anonymous Trainee

The way force is transmitted. Huh, do I really have to think that deeply to make it in the deep lower layer?

188：Anonymous Trainee

If you're serious, you probably have to. Properly swinging a sword ultimately comes down to thinking about where to apply force, where to transmit the most force with the sword

189：Deep Lower Layer Solo Explorer

Actually, I haven't thought much about it until now either, but sensible actions are solid even when thought about from that direction. But I think it's better to think while also adding normal empirical rules. No matter how carefully you analyze, in the end you're doing it with your own body, so the final decision comes down to consulting your own senses

190：Anonymous Trainee

I see

191：Anonymous Trainee

Maybe I'll search for and closely watch videos of famous guilds' battles

192：Anonymous Trainee

If you find any good videos, share them

193：Anonymous Trainee

Thanks, solo explorer guy!

194：Anonymous Trainee

It's helpful to have skilled people here to ask various questions

195：Deep Lower Layer Solo Explorer

Hehe. Seriously, I'm thinking I want to explore together when the people here grow up. Right now, the ones who are ahead don't really match me in various ways

196：Anonymous Trainee

Seriously?

197：Anonymous Trainee

Alright, I'll do my best

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226：Anonymous Trainee

So, swing practice is important. It's important, but that's ultimately practice for ingraining proper sword swinging, appropriate cutting methods into your body. In baseball terms, it's like basic practice for swing practice or fielding. It's only practice for mastering basic movements.

But to use that in actual combat, you need practice in a form close to actual combat. That's not just practicing single movements, but in the midst of actual movement, you confirm and think about how to use that movement, how to combine it. And based on that, you practice footwork or sword swinging again through swing practice or whatever.

That way, you train for actual combat.

—even if you understand that, it's difficult in practice. But you just have to do it, I guess

227：Anonymous Trainee

If you could do it, you wouldn't struggle, huh. Well, I'll do it though

228：Anonymous Trainee

Everyone is getting serious. I want to become an explorer soon too

229：Anonymous Trainee

>>228 You're planning to go to training school after high school, right? Go for it

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They made it!

233：Anonymous Trainee

What, what's wrong?—Oh, the stream. They finally made it to the entrance area, huh

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"Look, we're here."

"Oh, yeah."

"Yes."

235：Anonymous Trainee

They finally got their big break, huh

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"John-san, thank you so much. If John-san hadn't helped us, we two would have..."

"Enough with that kind of talk."

"Eh?"

"It's not like we're parting ways forever or anything. If Akane-ojou and Kanata-ojou get stronger and come down here, we'll meet again."

"But that's difficult, though."

"I don't know. I don't like that sentimental stuff. We meet casually, talk casually, and that's it when we part. Then if we meet again, we eat together and chat. That's the kind of fantasy I have for the dungeon."

"Fufu. That's very John-san-like, isn't it?"

"Right?"

237：Anonymous Trainee

He hates sentimental stuff, lol

238：Anonymous Trainee

I've had that fantasy too. In a world where dungeons exist like in light novels, when people set off on a journey to another town, they'd hear things by rumor, and then like a year or five years later, they'd just happen to run into each other somewhere, that kind of thing

239：Anonymous Trainee

In the sense that communication and transportation methods aren't developed, the inside of the dungeon is the same as that kind of world

240：Anonymous Trainee

Still, John Doe really isn't a bad guy, is he. Just now, Kana and Aka look relaxed, or rather, the stiffness has left their expressions

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"Yes!"

242：Anonymous Trainee

Did he just mutter something?

243：Anonymous Trainee

I hid it with John Doe's stream audio, but you can't hear it, can you

244：Anonymous Trainee

If you could hear it, there'd be no meaning to whispering secretly

245：Anonymous Trainee

Huh?

246：Anonymous Trainee

W-what!?

247：Anonymous Trainee

What what!?

248：Anonymous Trainee

Sorry, I'm out right now. Anyone who can explain?

249：Anonymous Trainee

Okay, I'll explain simply

John Doe muttered something, and then magic came flying from all four directions and got deflected by something like a barrier

250：Anonymous Trainee

No locals here?

251：Anonymous Trainee

Calm down. The locals would post here, right?

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"Everyone! We are Dungeon Ace! We've come to deal with the person who brought dangerous monsters to the upper layer! We will now deal with this! It's dangerous, so please step back!"

253：Anonymous Trainee

Huh?

254：Anonymous Trainee

Wow, there's Dungeon Ace

255：Anonymous Trainee

Who are these guys

256：Anonymous Trainee

What they're saying makes no sense

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"But...! John-san helped us! If you watch my stream, you'll understand!"

"You brought a dangerous monster to the upper layer without a taming certificate. At the very least, we need to restrain you and question you about the situation."

"Even so, to attack us suddenly...!"

"He has declared he won't follow general rules himself. He probably won't comply with warnings. In that case, only force will work! All, attack!"

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Haah!?

259：Transcription Team

"Did they think I was going easy because I held back during the Dullahan battle?"

260：Anonymous Trainee

No, seriously, what were they thin

261：Anonymous Trainee

Seriously!?

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Yeah....

266：Anonymous Trainee

That wolf really is something else, huh

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Explanation

Dungeon Ace apparently had a magic user mixed in with the onlookers, and quite a lot of magic was fired at John Doe. In response, not John Doe, but the monster at his feet, Robo, barked. He barked a lot. Then the magic disappeared. Rather than vanishing, it shook and blurred, unable to maintain its form, and scattered like mist

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No, yeah...?

269：Anonymous Trainee

Why did they think they could pick a fight with John Doe...?

270：Anonymous Trainee

Did they think they could win if they had numbers?

271：Anonymous Trainee

There's a rumor that the top of Dungeon Ace looks down on explorers, so they probably don't really know the situation and thought individuals could be handled however they wanted

272：Anonymous Trainee

Is the Dungeon Union or Explorers Association behind this?

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I don't know. But both their top brass are corrupt with power

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The guilds being involved from the start is the problem, isn't it. The Dungeon Union and Explorers Association can't be trusted since they're not independent

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"Let's go back, Robo."

『Bau bauu!!』

"They're not even worth killing, right? Come on, let's go back."

276：Anonymous Trainee

Ugh, this person is annoying

277：Anonymous Trainee

He doesn't seem like he's thinking about revenge or anything

278：Anonymous Trainee

I think he's probably really not interested. If he escapes to the bottom, no one will chase him anyway

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"When we get back, I'll treat you to some super delicious yakiniku. You know the power of yakiniku sauce, don't you?"

『Wafu』

"Aye aye."

280：Anonymous Trainee

So damn relaxed

281：Anonymous Trainee

wwwwww

282：Anonymous Trainee

Seriously, they're not even in his sights wwwwww

283：Anonymous Trainee

The first magic didn't work either, so there's an isolated difference in power, huh

284：Anonymous Trainee

Not being treated like even a mosquito is somehow pathetic, though

285：Anonymous Trainee

Alright, I'm gonna comment on John Doe's stream!

286：Anonymous Trainee

Yeah, me too!

287：Anonymous Trainee

With this, the people on the surface have lost their means of getting information about John Doe!

288：Anonymous Trainee

Seriously, picking hostility from the start was stupid. They must have thought he wouldn't listen, but if they were rational, there was room for talk

289：Anonymous Trainee

For the big shots involved with Dungeon Ace and such, what's important is probably whether they can 'use' him as they please

290：Anonymous Trainee

Was that the barrier skill from earlier?

291：Anonymous Trainee

I'm curious, so I'll ask. He said "Start up" right before, so maybe it's a skill?