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Bulletin Board: Around Chapters 10-11
1: Anonymous Explorer
This thread is for watching the Dungeon Stars members' full-group investigation stream. I made this thread more interested in the exploration content than Dungeon Stars themselves, so if you want to talk about Dungeon Stars, go to Dungeon Stars-related threads or member threads! I want to keep this discussion moderately focused on the investigation content while also touching on Dungeon Stars.
2: Anonymous Explorer
Good work on the OP
3: Anonymous Explorer
Would a speculation thread be better?
4: Anonymous Explorer
The speculation thread is serious, right!?
5: Anonymous Explorer
I kinda like the feel of drawing a line somewhere between serious and not serious
6: Anonymous Explorer
So side-to-side jumping jacks between serious and not serious?
7: Anonymous Explorer
Don't move with that much momentum...
8: Anonymous Explorer
The OP isn't exactly a Dungeon Stars hardcore fan either, so there's a bit of "if you're a hardcore Dan-Sta fan, maybe do it somewhere else"
9: Anonymous Explorer
Yeah, I guess
10: Anonymous Explorer
Threads about streaming content tend to turn out that way
11: Anonymous Explorer
Some light chat about Dan-Sta is okay, but basically want you to watch the stream itself
12: Anonymous Explorer
Sorry! Is Dan-Sta's stream different today?
13: Anonymous Explorer
>>12 On Whisper, they said today it's not an individual stream or collab, but all Dan-Sta members investigating the area where Amamiya Kanata was attacked by a Unique Monster
14: Anonymous Explorer
Thanks! I've been dungeon diving so I wouldn't have noticed without this thread
15: Anonymous Explorer
What exactly is dungeon investigation?
16: Anonymous Explorer
Understanding the terrain and checking for dangerous environments. Also checking monster spawn rates and stuff
17: Anonymous Explorer
The area Kana-chan ran into this time is on the edge of the upper layer where people normally don't go at all, so they're investigating that
18: Anonymous Explorer
Are they gonna put it on the union's shared map?
19: Anonymous Explorer
That shit map is kinda...
20: Anonymous Explorer
"The Map Maker" makes more decent maps
21: Anonymous Explorer
The union doesn't buy info... so naturally everyone hides advantageous info
22: Anonymous Explorer
Well, the walkthrough sites have enough info for upper, middle, and mid-lower layers
23: Anonymous Explorer
Though they leave out useful gathering points and stuff
24: Anonymous Explorer
People's livelihoods are at stake after all
25: Anonymous Explorer
But the place they're investigating this time doesn't seem like that kind of place?
26: Anonymous Explorer
No profit so no one goes near it
27: Anonymous Explorer
Probably just gonna take a quick look and that's it
28: Anonymous Explorer
But what about the accident when Kana-chan was chased by a Unique Monster?
29: Anonymous Explorer
Accident?
30: Anonymous Explorer
You mean that thing where we're not sure if it's BS or what?
31: Anonymous Explorer
The thing about "far beyond the deep layer"?
32: Anonymous Explorer
The question of why Kana-chan was in a place like that
33: Anonymous Explorer
The drone definitely did broadcast as video. But there was so little info afterward, total nothing
34: Anonymous Explorer
So many inquiries from other guilds that Dan-Sta even released an official statement
35: Anonymous Explorer
Conclusion: "Absolutely no evidence other than video footage"
36: Anonymous Explorer
They supposedly used potions for injury treatment though
37: Anonymous Explorer
Can you check potion effectiveness afterward?
38: Anonymous Explorer
They test for residue on the body. Apparently nothing was left though
39: Anonymous Explorer
Hmm, mystery calling mystery
40: Anonymous Explorer
There was a moment where the theory that Dan-Sta and Amamiya Kanata staged it themselves appeared but disappeared right away
41: Anonymous Explorer
All explorers know that Unique Monsters are no joke
42: Anonymous Explorer
It's like Kana-chan went somewhere and someone brought her back alive
43: Anonymous Explorer
Don't understand anything then
44: Anonymous Explorer
Major guilds are all begging for info about John Doe. Though they're already in a mess with mostly fake leads
45: Anonymous Explorer
Whether what he said is legit aside, it's almost certain there was info nobody else knew
46: Anonymous Explorer
Everyone's trying not to fall behind
47: Anonymous Explorer
Oh, stream started
48: Anonymous Explorer
No sky inside the dungeon
49: Anonymous Explorer
The fish that got away would be too big if what he said was true
50: Anonymous Explorer
Chatting while heading there?
51: Anonymous Explorer
It's the upper layer. Easy exploration for Dan-Sta members
52: Anonymous Explorer
Why's everyone out for the investigation though?
53: Anonymous Explorer
They planning to investigate the small room Kana-chan escaped to?
54: Anonymous Explorer
Isn't that dangerous?
55: Anonymous Explorer
Investigating when you don't know what happened?
56: Anonymous Explorer
That's what the firepower is for
57: Anonymous Explorer
It is the upper layer
58: Anonymous Explorer
Not exactly a monster house
59: Anonymous Explorer
But if it really is below the deep layer...
60: Anonymous Explorer
No proof though
61: Anonymous Explorer
If it's legit, how did Kana-chan get to the bottom from that small room?
62: Anonymous Explorer
Like a warp?
63: Anonymous Explorer
>>62 People pursuing that theory are being told it's just speculation
64: Anonymous Explorer
Isn't that the only possibility though? What else could there be?
65: Anonymous Explorer
It all comes down to whether John Doe is trustworthy
66: Anonymous Explorer
You saying we can't trust the drone video either?
67: Anonymous Explorer
There's illusion magic and phantom magic and stuff, right?
68: Anonymous Explorer
Who'd use it
69: Anonymous Explorer
It could be that kind of trap
70: Anonymous Explorer
Considering Kana-chan was brought to the surface, it's definitely John Doe
71: Anonymous Explorer
In the end, no matter how much evidence piles up, there's a certain number of people who don't want to trust John Doe
72: Anonymous Explorer
Dan-Sta hasn't issued an official stance, but Akane-chan did normally say she got transferred somewhere
73: Anonymous Explorer
That's why major guilds and companies are desperate
74: Anonymous Explorer
So how exactly are they gonna investigate?
75: Anonymous Explorer
Wait, no one's investigated that small room?
76: Anonymous Explorer
They're hesitant to touch it
77: Anonymous Explorer
That really would be dangerous. Everyone's trying to make someone else go first since they don't know if there's a clone skill or what
78: Anonymous Explorer
No point if they figure it out but can't use it
79: Anonymous Explorer
Heh!
80: Anonymous Explorer
They're talking about it in the stream
81: Anonymous Explorer
Apparently they're syncing senses with the spirit Yuki Noah controls to investigate
82: Anonymous Explorer
Spirit is what?
83: Anonymous Explorer
Noah-chan's unique skill. So far no other owners of the same skill found in Japan. There are a few with system skills though
84: Anonymous Explorer
She summons and commands five types of spirits: fire, water, wind, earth, and tree. By the way, this is called "Spirit User" skill, and there's also skills that can summon single-element spirits like "Fire Spirit User," and there's apparently a skill called "Spirit Friend" too. Details are unclear but while single-element spirit skills are rare but have examples, it seems Yuki Noah is seriously the only one with a comprehensive spirit user skill
85: Anonymous Explorer
Unique skills are super rare skills?
86: Anonymous Explorer
No clear definition but supposedly it's like one per country or something
87: Anonymous Explorer
It's different from summoning magic
88: Anonymous Explorer
Summoning magic summons monsters you have contracts with, so it's a bit different
89: Anonymous Explorer
Spirits seem more convenient than monsters in various ways
90: Anonymous Explorer
Five senses sync, actually right now she can sync two places at once so it's sight and hearing
91: Anonymous Explorer
Spirits don't die?
92: Anonymous Explorer
They don't have lives, right? You can summon them any number of times, multiple at once
93: Anonymous Explorer
I've never seen spirits get attacked in Noah-chan's streams
94: Anonymous Explorer
Spirits are like lumps of elements. No physical body
95: Anonymous Explorer
134: Anonymous Explorer
Finished surveying the area?
135: Anonymous Explorer
Looks like
136: Anonymous Explorer
Heading to the small room they found earlier
137: Anonymous Explorer
Really was a nothing area
138: Anonymous Explorer
At best some ore here and there
139: Anonymous Explorer
Upper layer ore is whatever...
140: Anonymous Explorer
But why hadn't anyone found that small room until now?
141: Anonymous Explorer
In the early days people were exploring while groping around, so someone probably went there
142: Anonymous Explorer
They probably just didn't report it since there was nothing
143: Anonymous Explorer
I wonder why something happened when Kana-chan was there
144: Anonymous Explorer
Oh, arrived?
145: Anonymous Explorer
Past the corner there
146: Anonymous Explorer
Ah,
147: Anonymous Explorer
Hm?
148: Anonymous Explorer
Eh!?
149: Anonymous Explorer
Kana-chan rushed in!?
150: Anonymous Explorer
Wait wait wait. Explain it so I can understand, I can't see the stream
151: Anonymous Explorer
When Dan-Sta members approached that small room, just at that timing someone came out from inside the small room. After freezing for a second they said "Excuse me" and tried to go back into the small room backward like it was reverse playback, and then Kana-chan and Akane-chan rushed in
152: Anonymous Explorer
Then they disappeared
153: Anonymous Explorer
Huh?
154: Anonymous Explorer
What? What happened while I was writing?
155: Anonymous Explorer
Don't know. As the person who came out went back, Kana-chan and Akane-chan got dragged into the small room too. Right after that, the room glowed blue, and when the light settled, everyone was gone
156: Anonymous Explorer
What does this mean...
157: Anonymous Explorer
The other Dan-Sta members are panicking
158: Anonymous Explorer
Major is calming everyone down
159: Anonymous Explorer
Major is reliable in times like this
160: Anonymous Explorer
Major could probably handle the front lines normally...
161: Anonymous Explorer
Anyway, they're gonna investigate the small room with spirits
162: Anonymous Explorer
Drone can't go in?
163: Anonymous Explorer
If it's a transfer, the drone connection gets cut
164: Anonymous Explorer
Probably transferred somewhere then...
165: Anonymous Explorer
Don't know where it connects to
166: Anonymous Explorer
Fan threads are screaming
167: Anonymous Explorer
Lots of people were watching Dan-Sta after what happened last time
168: Anonymous Explorer
Also who's the person who came out?
169: Anonymous Explorer
Got curious and checked Amamiya Kanata's archive. That's probably John Doe
170: Anonymous Explorer
Eh?
171: Anonymous Explorer
John Doe as in the person who saved Amamiya Kanata?
172: Anonymous Explorer
The person who found injured Amamiya Kanata who was probably transferred somewhere, treated her, and took her out of the dungeon over several days
173: Anonymous Explorer
How did you know?
174: Anonymous Explorer
Clothes were different but armor looked the same, and the face
175: Anonymous Explorer
You looked carefully
176: Anonymous Explorer
People saying Amamiya Kanata went missing again
177: Anonymous Explorer
That's twice in a week！
178: Anonymous Explorer
She's gone missing way too much!
179: Anonymous Explorer
Hope she's okay...
180: Anonymous Explorer
If it's a transfer, she went to the same place as last time?
181: Anonymous Explorer
>>180 That's it！
182: Anonymous Explorer
Possible
183: Anonymous Explorer
This time neither Amamiya Kanata nor Hachijoji Akane are injured, so hope they stream
184: Anonymous Explorer
But Kana-chan's drone got left behind
185: Anonymous Explorer
She's got a spare
186: Anonymous Explorer
Oh！
187: Anonymous Explorer
Video changed！
188: Anonymous Explorer
I'll do a transcript "We got video! Sorry everyone! Both of us are safe! We got transferred but..."
189: Anonymous Explorer
Filming with smartphone selfie cam?
190: Anonymous Explorer
Looks like it, she's reaching out
191: Anonymous Explorer
Not that kind of scene, but holding the phone camera parallel to the ground, feels very much like a famous Dtuber
192: Anonymous Explorer
Akane-chan in the background, what's that? Fur?
193: Anonymous Explorer
Monster!? No way
194: Anonymous Explorer
Anyone hear him muttering something?
195: Anonymous Explorer
Turned up volume and caught it "I'm transferring. You're coming too. This is yonjussou (that's the sound, don't know what it means)"
196: Anonymous Explorer
Yonjussou?
197: Anonymous Explorer
That's 40 layer, right? One chance, 40 should be correct
198: Anonymous Explorer
What's 40 layer mean
199: Anonymous Explorer
40-sou! ("sou" meaning "ish")
200: Anonymous Explorer
He's saying "here" so it's 40th layer right?
201: Anonymous Explorer
Since he said he got transferred, maybe John Doe knows what it is
203: Anonymous Explorer
"I could just leave you here" "W-w-w-w-what kind of scary thing are you saying!?" "No, seriously. I was planning to go back to the very bottom of the dungeon" "Ugh... that's, true but..."
204: Anonymous Explorer
John Doe confirmed for sure
205: Anonymous Explorer
First time I've seen Hachijoji Akane use keigo (honorifics)
206: Anonymous Explorer
John Doe as in the person who saved Kana-chan in the last disappearance incident?
207: Anonymous Explorer
He actually exists
208: Anonymous Explorer
Of course he exists
209: Anonymous Explorer
No trace afterward... or wait, does this mean he's leaving Kana-chan and Akane-chan on the 40th layer?
210: Anonymous Explorer
>>209 That's Akane-chan using honorifics
211: Anonymous Explorer
40th layer means 40 layers from the surface? Or 40 layers beyond the deep layer after the first 4 layers from upper to deep?
212: Anonymous Explorer
Either way it's bad, right?
213: Anonymous Explorer
No, enemies get stronger up to the deep layer but not necessarily beyond that
214: Anonymous Explorer
>>213 Think about it logically
215: Anonymous Explorer
"Geez, you guys really..." "I'm really sorry. Even though you helped me before, I caused you trouble again... I feel bad asking again, but please help us" "From me too, asking... please. If this is the 40th layer, it's far below the deep layer, and there are dangerous monsters, right? Me and Kana-chan alone can't survive. So could you please take us to the surface? I'll do whatever I can to thank you"
216: Anonymous Explorer
Where's the camera filming?
217: Anonymous Explorer
This is the phone camera
218: Anonymous Explorer
They're asking really nicely
219: Anonymous Explorer
Yeah, they're both impressive. I couldn't recognize the situation and bow that quickly
220: Anonymous Explorer
Current situation
- Transferred to somewhere deeper than the deep layer
- Cannot return on our own
- Won't survive if left behind
Being able to simply recognize this is amazing
221: Anonymous Explorer
Immediately seeing the important parts of the situation is essential for explorers
222: Anonymous Explorer
"I'll take you, but... sigh" "Thank you. I'll thank you as much as I can, so please say whatever you want" "No, you don't have to... wait, hold on"
223: Anonymous Explorer
Good
224: Anonymous Explorer
He'll take them. Kind
225: Anonymous Explorer
Can't believe he's helping people inside the dungeon. Does he have that much leeway?
226: Anonymous Explorer
>>225 He says he's cleared 100 layers, so 40 layers is nothing
227: Anonymous Explorer
"There's one thing I want to discuss" "Yes" "What is it?" "To be blunt, I have no reason to help you two. You understand that, right? Not just Ms. Amamiya, that girl too. You know about me, don't you?"
228: Anonymous Explorer
Thought it was good but the wind changed
229: Anonymous Explorer
No freebies?
230: Anonymous Explorer
"So I want you two to prepare a reward. And I want to make it like you're hiring me" "Reward, you mean? Money, or something?" "One billion each per person" "Eh..."
231: Anonymous Explorer
Don't screw with us！！
232: Anonymous Explorer
"When do we have to pay the reward?" "I'm not saying right now... 10 years later"
233: Anonymous Explorer
10 years later... no, 1 billion!?
234: Anonymous Explorer
Can they earn 1 billion in 10 years? No, frontliners probably can, but Dan-Sta is only barely at deep layer
235: Anonymous Explorer
1 billion is tough...
236: Anonymous Explorer
Honestly, if you hit the jackpot from a lower layer treasure chest, it's 1 billion in one go
237: Anonymous Explorer
But that kind of win rate...
238: Anonymous Explorer
"Understood" "Kana-chan" "Mashi, eh?" "Can you cut the stream? Just muting the audio is fine. You're on a phone, right?" "...Yeah, understood"
239: Anonymous Explorer
Eh, audio cut?
240: Anonymous Explorer
Why?
241: Anonymous Explorer
Stream stopped. Talking about something that can't be said on stream
242: Anonymous Explorer
Talk that can't be on stream... details of the reward?
243: Anonymous Explorer
Negotiating to offer something in exchange for reducing the 1 billion?
244: Anonymous Explorer
Something physical, sexual?
245: Anonymous Explorer
>>244 That's forbidden for idols
246: Anonymous Explorer
>>245 That's why they cut the stream. Not impossible
247: Anonymous Explorer
Well, can't normally talk about transaction details
248: Anonymous Explorer
Oh
249: Anonymous Explorer
They're back?
250: Anonymous Explorer
"I'm telling this to everyone watching: this time I'm being hired by these two. Reward is 2 billion, employers are individuals Amamiya Kanata and Hachijoji Akane, 1 billion each. But don't misunderstand. This is a special case. Basically I do what I want. If I'm not in the mood, I won't go along even if you pile up 1 trillion. You can try to contact me, but don't get in my way, okay?"
251: Anonymous Explorer
So it's still 1 billion each after all
252: Anonymous Explorer
253: Anonymous Explorer
So... what does that mean?
254: Anonymous Explorer
So in the end he takes us to the surface for 1 billion each
255: Anonymous Explorer
Maybe he wanted to say this is a special case
256: Anonymous Explorer
Don't know what they talked about...
257: Anonymous Explorer
Doesn't look like the amount was reduced, so no selling bodies or anything
258: Anonymous Explorer
But he says "being hired." Can you negotiate for 1 billion?
259: Anonymous Explorer
>>258 He says he won't do it even for 1 trillion if he's not in the mood. Probably slapped that high price to prevent that
260: Anonymous Explorer
Can get a seat at negotiations? Though since it's inside the dungeon, no contracts or anything
261: Anonymous Explorer
In other words, 1 billion is needed. Is there a return for spending 1 billion to hire him?
262: Anonymous Explorer
"Then, I'll take it that the contract is established?" "...Is it okay with no contract or anything?" "Don't need it. I don't particularly need money. Well, if you ignore the contract, my trust just falls from 0 to rock bottom, so don't worry" "I'll definitely prepare 1 billion yen. Please take care of us" "Excuse our rude wording. From me too, asking you. We'll prepare the reward no matter what"
263: Anonymous Explorer
The thing you least want to hear from your business partner
264: Anonymous Explorer
My trust was 0 to begin with
265: Anonymous Explorer
Of course you wouldn't trust someone you just met. It's just falling from flat to rock bottom
266: Anonymous Explorer
So if it comes to that, Dan-Sta can't deal with John Doe
267: Anonymous Explorer
>>266 Depending on the situation, isn't that a death sentence?
268: Anonymous Explorer
>>266 That's definitely something you can't escape...
269: Anonymous Explorer
"Then, you can stop with that stiff speaking style, okay?" "Eh?" "No, since we were having a serious talk, that was fine, but I find it bothersome to be talked to like that all the time. Normal is fine. Besides, since you're the employers now, as long as you're not looking down on me, normal attitude is fine"
270: Anonymous Explorer
Demanding 1 billion and then saying speak normally lol
271: Anonymous Explorer
John Doe really says outrageous things
272: Anonymous Explorer
No, the latter part is everything. Since you're the employer, no need to be humble
273: Anonymous Explorer
Clarifying positions
274: Anonymous Explorer
>>273 Meaning they have no intention of acting arrogantly?
275: Anonymous Explorer
"I use keigo normally, so is keigo okay?" "I'll talk normally. Thanks in advance, John-san" "Ms. Amamiya can use keigo. As long as it doesn't get overly stiff, it's fine. As for Ms. Hachijoji, um... I've seen videos so Hachijoji Akane talking solemnly just felt wrong" "I normally talk without holding back"
276: Anonymous Explorer
Stable
277: Anonymous Explorer
I get it lol
278: Anonymous Explorer
She talks normally on streams
279: Anonymous Explorer
She probably uses keigo with someone clearly superior. She used keigo when talking to a Sword Saint on some program before
280: Anonymous Explorer
She uses keigo sometimes elsewhere too. Though the unrestrained Kansai dialect is kind of her character
281: Anonymous Explorer
"Then, I'll send you now. Give me a bit to prepare. Ah, late but I haven't introduced myself. Call me John Doe. No affiliation as an explorer. I normally live in the dungeon" "Ah, I'm Amamiya Kanata" "I'm Hachijoji Akane. Nice to meet you"
282: Anonymous Explorer
He introduces himself as John Doe again
283: Anonymous Explorer
Obviously wouldn't give his real name
284: Anonymous Explorer
"What's that?" "A saddle to put on Robo. With two people it's one thing, but with three it's unstable"
285: Anonymous Explorer
Huuuuuuuuge
286: Anonymous Explorer
So, so big...
287: Anonymous Explorer
No, the wolf is huge! No wolf type is that size!
288: Anonymous Explorer
If it can move like a wolf at that size, it's lower layer boss level. Though there's probably more to it
289: Anonymous Explorer
Really curious what kind of attacks that monster has. Want to touch it
290: Anonymous Explorer
"Ah, John-san? Is it okay to call you that?" "Sure" "Could you explain what happened to us and what we're going to do? I want to explain to my stream viewers and manager. Also, is it okay if you're on the stream? If it's a problem, we'll try not to show you"
291: Anonymous Explorer
Report-niki, please show some restraint
292: Anonymous Explorer
There are sometimes, you know. People who love monsters
293: Anonymous Explorer
Oh, Kanata's amazing, she's properly trying not to show John Doe
294: Anonymous Explorer
But Robo is fully visible
295: Anonymous Explorer
Since it's a monster, no portrait rights, Yoroshiku!
296: Anonymous Explorer
Being visible on a major stream isn't a problem?
297: Anonymous Explorer "...I won't show anything that would be bad if shown, so don't worry. So, that small room from earlier, it seems that's not fully understood yet?" "Yeah. We came today to investigate that" "I don't clearly remember from when I was chased by a Unique Monster..." "It's fine. That's a transfer trap, I guess you could say. It exists on probably all layers in the dungeon, and when you enter that small room, a magic circle activates and warps you to one of the magic circles on all layers"
298: Anonymous Explorer
There are things that would be bad if shown!?
299: Anonymous Explorer
Seriously!?
300: Anonymous Explorer
This is big, new dungeon discovery
301: Anonymous Explorer
He definitely knows more about the dungeon than most explorers
302: Anonymous Explorer
No, the fact that he's investigating this properly is crazy. How does he know it's all layers?
303: Anonymous Explorer "Warp, you know the cause? If you know, could you tell us?" "It's a magic circle. Same as when you step on a monster house trap, when you enter the small room, a magic circle activates and transfers the people and things inside" "Can we choose where it sends us?" "There are similar small rooms and magic circles on each layer. You get randomly transferred to one of them. So that time Ms. Amamiya got transferred to the very bottom, and this time it's somewhere in the upper half"
304: Anonymous Explorer
The info is too detailed
305: Anonymous Explorer
He understands that much...
306: Anonymous Explorer
Did he step on it a lot or something, or tested it somehow?
307: Anonymous Explorer
Just this info alone wouldn't be worth a fortune but it's worth a lot
308: Anonymous Explorer >>307 He's not interested
309: Anonymous Explorer
No, if details are known, top guilds will all start looking
310: Anonymous Explorer
Beyond the deep layer... dangerous but the return...
311: Anonymous Explorer
Chikage will definitely go to earn
312: Anonymous Explorer "What's this?" "Wrap it around your bodies and secure each other. Because if you get blown off while running..." "Is it that fast? This is a wolf type monster, right?" "It's fast and not a straight line. If you're confident you won't get shaken off hanging from a fighter jet in combat, it's fine" "Impossible" "That's definitely impossible for me"
313: Anonymous Explorer
Fighter jet lol
314: Anonymous Explorer
Is it that fast?
315: Anonymous Explorer
That's not a description you'd use for a monster
316: Anonymous Explorer "Is this okay?" "Yeah, probably? As long as you don't fall off. Then Ms. Amamiya in the back with her feet in the stirrups, and Ms. Hachijoji in front sitting down. And then—"
317: Anonymous Explorer
I know it's not that kind of scene, but girls tying each other up is kinda nice
318: Anonymous Explorer
The text sounds that way but it's not that good of a picture
319: Anonymous Explorer
But their outfits are cute
320: Anonymous Explorer "When you took Kana-chan to the surface, what did you do?" "...Well, whatever works. So, any other questions? We're leaving" "...Doesn't seem like a person who does weird things"
321: Anonymous Explorer
She's embarrassed
322: Anonymous Explorer
If she took her while sleeping, that's kinda...
323: Anonymous Explorer "Um, are there no other details about that small room?" "Ah...? That when you step on it you get transferred, and the destination is random, that's about it. Ah, and once it activates, it doesn't reactivate unless everyone leaves the small room. Like when I was the only one who left earlier. And anything else...?"
324: Anonymous Explorer
He's been glancing at something since earlier
325: Anonymous Explorer
Nothing there?
326: Anonymous Explorer "Ah, I see. The reason that trap hadn't been discovered until now is probably because everyone who realized it and activated it died" "Huh?" "...Meaning that depending on where you're transferred, you won't survive?" "Not 'depending' - definitely won't survive. If someone of upper layer level steps on it in the upper layer, at best they get sent to the middle layer. From middle layer, you need to hit like a 1 in 100+ chance to go up. They've only explored up to 4 layers above, so there's at most 3 layers above, but 100+ layers below. Normally you'd get sent down" "Are monsters beyond the deep layer that strong?" "Definitely stronger than deep layer. And even if you can defeat monsters, you'll starve before returning to the surface" ""Ah"" (Kanata & Akane)
327: Anonymous Explorer
Suddenly talking about scary stuff
328: Anonymous Explorer
Well, of course. Last time with Kanata, she got sent down too
329: Anonymous Explorer
So there's probably a lot that hasn't been discovered since there are no other survivors
330: Anonymous Explorer
But in the last few years, streaming has become possible so we're getting better at knowing when things happen
331: Anonymous Explorer
The boss subspecies was probably the same. The discoverer didn't survive...
332: Anonymous Explorer "So anyway, I strongly don't recommend intentionally stepping on the trap... well, clones are fine, no actually not fine either, but doing things like filming with clones is on your own responsibility if anything happens. I don't know anything about it"
333: Anonymous Explorer
Dan-Sta was trying to investigate with Yuki's spirit sync too, but why are clones no good?
334: Anonymous Explorer
Even if a clone gets destroyed, there's no damage to the main body, right?
335: Anonymous Explorer
Just mana decreases
336: Anonymous Explorer
That's as far as is known. Among deep layer enemies, there are apparently ones that absorb main body mana through clones
337: Anonymous Explorer
If there's something beyond the deep layer, and there are unknown monsters there, they might have attacks that affect the main body when attacking clones
338: Anonymous Explorer
Hmm
339: Anonymous Explorer
I see. On the front lines, you need that kind of caution against the unknown
340: Anonymous Explorer
Well, not that many people think that deeply. It's more like a game of chicken about who'll hit the stone bridge
341: Anonymous Explorer "So, that. Back to the surface, we'll go back through the dungeon normally from here" "Can't we use this?" "No, it's tricky. Since I think this is around layers 30 to 40, there's a high probability of getting sent down" "Is it no good to transfer multiple times?"
342: Anonymous Explorer "Even though it's random, there's a bias in the probability. Higher probability for closer layers both above and below, lower probability for farther layers. So if you go deep on the first try, you might not be able to come back here. If you like gambling, maybe though" "Haa, so that's how it works" "Then when I warped from upper layer to the very bottom" "That just means you had really bad luck. And I have incredibly bad luck today too. So anyway, we're going back normally" Transcript peaked
343: Anonymous Explorer It's getting really fast lol
344: Anonymous Explorer
If you accidentally step on it and keep going in and out until you die, there might be a chance
345: Anonymous Explorer
But you won't know what layer you're in until you go out
346: Anonymous Explorer
And then you get spotted by monsters
347: Anonymous Explorer
It's too fast for surface explorers weaker than John Doe
348: Anonymous Explorer "Um, is it okay to keep streaming the video while moving?" "Ah, sure, that's fine"
349: Anonymous Explorer
"But the drone's no good" "Can't keep up?" "Yeah, impossible. If I hold it, I'll drop it. You don't have something like that?" "I don't have one... Akane-chan, do you have anything?" "Me? Hmm... ah, I have a head camera from a long time ago" "Akane-chan... let's organize your pouch together later?" "U, Ussai wa!" (You're noisy!)
350: Anonymous Explorer
Akane-chan... still bad at cleaning up
351: Anonymous Explorer
That tends to become a gag
352: Anonymous Explorer
Wish drone performance would improve a bit
353: Anonymous Explorer
Isn't it good enough now?
354: Anonymous Explorer
With the intense combat of frontliners, details don't show up well. Accuracy as video material
355: Anonymous Explorer
Give up on that? It's not designed for that
356: Anonymous Explorer
Do people's combat footage help? Sometimes
357: Anonymous Explorer
Even if you say that, the frontliners are too top class, often "can't do it even if you see it"
358: Anonymous Explorer
Can't reproduce spec violence
359: Anonymous Explorer
Just having lower layer people put out explanation videos is enough
360: Anonymous Explorer "Should I put it on?" "Akane-chan would be in front..." "With that height, you'd only see ahead" "Ussai wa! I'm being careful too!" "Ah, sorry. Anyway, either Ms. Hachijoji or Ms. Amamiya, hurry up and decide"
361: Anonymous Explorer Kinda harsh toward Akane lol
362: Anonymous Explorer Can understand why Kansai dialect + close-distance Akane-chan is easier to talk to than the pure and cute Kana-chan
363: Anonymous Explorer "Hey, can you stop calling me Ms. Hachijoji? 'Jou' means ojou-sama's jou, right?" "Hm? No, but calling people 'kimi' individually feels kinda pretentious and I don't like it. Isn't 'anta' for you fine without feeling weird?" "No, just Akane is fine. Hachijoji is long" "...I see" "Ah, I'm fine with just Kanata too. Ms. Amamiya feels distant"
364: Anonymous Explorer "Ah, got it. But calling by first name is a high hurdle, so Ms. Hachijoji is Akane-jou. Ms. Amamiya, should I call you Kanata-jou or Amamiya?" "That's fine. Anyway, Ms. Hachijoji is way too long no matter how you slice it" "Honestly thought so" "It's longer than mine. Ah, I'll go with Kanata-jou"
365: Anonymous Explorer I get it... high hurdle
366: Anonymous Explorer In elementary school I did it without thinking
367: Anonymous Explorer Sometimes there are girls with close distance
368: Anonymous Explorer People misunderstand so seriously...
369: Anonymous Explorer
And then self-loathing
370: Anonymous Explorer Is this hell? It was reality
371: Anonymous Explorer "Then, so Kana-chan puts on the head camera?" "Yeah, let's do that"
372: Anonymous Explorer
Ah, video changed
373: Anonymous Explorer Looks super dizzying
374: Anonymous Explorer That's why the drone gets used. Other cameras are useless
375: Anonymous Explorer Actually convenient. I think dungeon filming tech is the best
376: Anonymous Explorer Fanless drones are seriously cheating
377: Anonymous Explorer "Can't help it. Drones can't keep up with Robo" "I was wondering, have you been talking to someone this whole time?" "Viewer-kun" "Viewer, you mean, eh!? You're streaming!?" "For real!?"
378: Anonymous Explorer Eh?
379: Anonymous Explorer He's streaming?
380: Anonymous Explorer "Eh, well, yeah. But the drone is put away now so it's just audio" "What's the channel name!?" "No, that's fine for now" "Ah, John-san. Do you know how much attention you're getting right now?" "I understand" "Then. We're interested in that. Not just us, but lots of people. So if you're willing to tell us, we want to know. If you don't want to tell us, just say so"
381: Anonymous Explorer "Then, I don't intend to appear in your two's streams here, nor do I intend to tell you. Is that clear?" "Then understood. We won't ask anymore. Kana-chan, you too" "That... yeah. Understood. Sorry John-san" "Ah, yeah"
382: Anonymous Explorer Akane-chan biting?
383: Anonymous Explorer Of course they're curious
384: Anonymous Explorer No, this is intentionally getting a denial from John Doe to avoid complaints later
385: Anonymous Explorer Ah, that kind of...
386: Anonymous Explorer "Well then, let's get on, get on. Gotta get back to the surface"
387: Anonymous Explorer
It's really big
388: Anonymous Explorer John Doe is pretty big but this one's taller than him
389: Anonymous Explorer But more curious about the stream?
390: Anonymous Explorer "Whoa, big back" "Sitting... will it be okay?" "Rope, give me the rope"
391: Anonymous Explorer At that size, can't hold with legs
392: Anonymous Explorer Unstable so rope
393: Anonymous Explorer "Okay, this works. Did you wrap the support rope around your arms?" "Yes, wrapped both arms. A bit hard to move..." "As long as you don't fall"
394: Anonymous Explorer Kinda curious about John Doe's stream. Looking around but can't find it immediately
395: Anonymous Explorer Making a separate thread to search for John Doe's stream. With password. Wait a bit
396: Anonymous Explorer >>395 Capable
397: Anonymous Explorer Need password?
398: Anonymous Explorer If it goes well, we can monopolize important info, and if it's clumsily found and spreads and people gather, John Doe might dislike it
399: Anonymous Explorer He didn't seem to want to stand out
400: Anonymous Explorer Worst case is upsetting John Doe
401: Anonymous Explorer Something you can do in a small thread
402: Anonymous Explorer Made the thread 【Mid-Layer Exploration Record Internal Sharing Thread】 password:【Image】 Deleting image in 10 minutes
403: Anonymous Explorer
Thanks
404: Anonymous Explorer Moving there already?
405: Anonymous Explorer Let's just move there all at once. Better to kill this thread
406: Anonymous Explorer That's for the thread owner to decide
407: Anonymous Explorer No, the thread owner made the new thread
408: Anonymous Explorer Seriously? Checked ID and it's actually the thread owner
409: Thread Owner
Sorry for changing the purpose mid-thread. Only about 10 people here so I figured it's fine
410: Anonymous Explorer Well actually that's what people are interested in
411: Anonymous Explorer Can we talk about Kana-chan's stream in that thread?
412: Anonymous Explorer >>411 Until John Doe's stream is found, that's the info source so it's fine
413: Anonymous Explorer Then let's move—this thread is now post-prohibited!!